I'm looking for a rally game to compliment DiRT Rally. I have RBR, but I honestly find the vanilla version quite dated and underwhelming, and though I do have NGP and RBRCIT the rest of the modding process is pretty overwhelming and inconvenient (for getting other cars, engine sounds and tracks). Maybe I'll end up getting it all figured out eventually, but for now I just want another good modern rally game that I can just PLAY without having to fuck around with it for hours.Currently downloading the demo for SLRE but would appreciate impressions of either games. I'll be buying one of them in the steam winter sales, most likely. Thanks!edit - I suppose you could add DiRT 4 into the mix as well but many consider it to be inferior on the whole to Rally, so in some ways I'd rather try something from another developer. I have both and I have to say the Career modes are way different but I love both games for different reasons.SLRE had a great playground mode and I think it was one of the first rally games to do this?
The controls are pretty tunable and work well if you have a compatible wheel. This game has a large variety of cars and supports a manual transmission with an H Gate. The graphics and frame rate aren’t amazing but it’s a solid game that got overlooked because of its problems with controller compatibility problems.
I don’t think it allows multiple control inputs so you need a workaround for that.WRC 7 has an accurate-to-reality WRC career mode but only has current era WRC cars which all have sequential gears, though for these cars it wouldn’t really make sense to have h-shifters anyway because of how fast they go and how hard it would be to shift.It’s a fun rally game that looks fantastic and the stages are AMAZING and fun. I especially love Panzerplatte / ADAC Rally Deutschland, which was represented in Dirt Rally. As others have said, get both.If I had to pick one I'd go for SLRE, mainly because of the physics.
It sounds a bit pathetic and isn't as pretty as the Codies titles but the actual driving feel is so good. I also like the damage model more - a hard landing can damage suspension or rip a steering arm out, gears may be unusable etc. And the cars even look properly dented, rather than the sort of melted look you get in DR. It features a good range of old and new cars (though no MKII Escort!), Rally, Rally Cross, Hillclimb, some gymkhana type events and a playground. You can use any car on all of these.Controls are a bit of a mix.
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It has better FFB than DR or WRC7 (Subjective, just my opinion) and old cars take time to change gear so you can't cheat an advantage over H-Shift by using paddle shifters to get a fast change, like you can in DR. But only supports single controller so no separate handbrake etc. And although the clutch pedal works you can't turn off auto clutch so you'll never fluff a change or stall.It also has about twice the stage mileage of DR with no duplicates - i.e. The short stages aren't just half of the long ones. 8 countries.When you first play you won't like it but don't give up, it'll grow on you!WRC7 on the other hand is a big leap in quality over WRC6. The stages aren't true to life but have the right character and are challenging and interesting. In this version you actually have too think about balancing the car and modulating inputs.
Overall it plays very well and has a great atmosphere, helped by following the full WRC championship and a logical career mode. Biggest problem for me is the lack of older cars but on the other hand it's the only game with 2017 spec WRC models.Oh, don't judge SLRE by the demo. It's an old build and doesn't give a good impression. If they're not going to update it they'd be better taking it down. I can't comment on RBR.
I last built a gaming PC for Sega Rally and am now on PS4. Must try it one day though.Between the two SLRE wins hands down. The physics is the best thing about this game. While I messed about with Minis, MKII Escorts, Sierras, Kadetts and even a Fulvia in my youth I'm not a rally driver so my opinion is as invalid as most on this forum. All I can say is that the driving just feels right. The cars always seem to do what I'd expect, even if this often means spinning (in this game you can reach the limit of steering lock).
I actually find it more immersive than DR, despite the poorer engine sounds, because it just flows so nicely. They really seem to have the weight worked out and when I watch a replay the motion looks realistic.I know you didn't ask about DR but the big difference is that in DR you don't have to think about managing the cars weight, there seems to be some sort of hidden assist to make drifting easy and worst of all if you hit a bump you're 50ft off the ground! SLRE has many annoying little problems but has solved these.WRC7 is hard to work out because the FFB is still not very good (although much improved with the latest patch) and there may possibly be some lag (or I may be imagining it). But you can use the weight to set it up for a corner and mid corner seems right so I don't think there's anything fundamentally wrong with it. Especially as it's not really sold as a sim.
Steam has a demo of sebastien loeb rally so I checked that out. I was able to get my controller with all its complicated binds working okay.my impression is that the cars in SLRE feel incredibly heavy, and there is a slight smudgy delay between when I turn my joystick, and the car actually responds. In comparison, in richard burns the cars feel a lot more light and agile, and they are a lot more responsive.
I'm not sure if SLRE put a filter on the joystick, and that a wheel would feel more responsive, or if that's just how their cars are supposed to handle. (I've also never driven a real rally car in real life, so SLRE could actually be closer to how a real rally car handles, idk)in terms of traction and sliding, SLRE feels great, on richard burns level almost. One thing that hurts it though is that there aren't any sound effects for your tires sliding on the surfaces, or if they're there, they're incredibly quiet. I don't have a force feedback wheel, so in richard burns I rely on these traction noises to 'feel' how my tires are sliding on the ground.
I wish they were higher in SLRE.as for framerate, SLRE has slowdowns and sometimes the frames get choppy. I've read that it's a pretty bad port, but I'd be willing to put up with it because the driving is fun.SLRE is a lot better than Dirt Rally though, that's for sure.I'm going to try out WRC7 next. I've only ever played it with a wheel and it works very well, in fact I'd say it's the best FFB of all the modern rally games.but FFB is very subjective so not everyone will like it.You do get some sliding noise but perhaps it's not apparent until too late? Try a big slide somewhere rough like Australia's Hydes Creek and you'll hear a swoosh of gravel. On tarmac the tyre squeal is quiet but it's there. I guess I hadn't noticed with a wheel. Do you drive in cockpit/Dash or chase cam?Also, there's a big difference in individual cars and in surfaces - the stages with a mile of tarmac in 8 miles of gravel really throw me, with a wheel it feels like a different car.
Worth trying a few.On Ps4 the frame rate is very steady. I believe it's locked to 30fps which I prefer over a 60fps game that drops to 45 when things get busy. Someone here recently posted a guide to getting it to run smoothly on PC.I just realised you're using the demo version.
That's an old build. They fixed a ton of stuff in October 2016 (9 months after release, hope for CM yet), especially may problems unique to the PC version. It's so cheap you may as well just buy it. Alright, I just got done trying WRC 7 and I fucking hated it, lol.the traction felt so floaty, and it was so forgiving.
Even with the handling settings on 'ultra-sim badass mode' it still felt real arcadey.I think WRC 5 actually had more realistic driving physics than WRC 7. I can only guess that they have a brand to protect, so they don't want to turn potential WRC fans off by making the game too hard. It's a shame.SLRE I was really digging though actually. It's on steam sale right now for 80% off and I just bought it.
I actually find it more immersive than DR, despite the poorer engine sounds, because it just flows so nicely.I've almost exclusively played RBR, and it has xbox graphics and like 128kbps sound effects, so I'm not bothered by any of that lolI can't comment on RBR.if you haven't played it yet you should give it a try. Torrent an ISO of it and add the third party car/physics packs using that loader program. RBR is fucking incredible. I've gotten super stoned and played it and I could like feel each tire sliding across the dirt. Once you get into the groove and are sliding around on gravel it almost feels like skiing if that makes any sense?accurate driving physics are my main concern with rally games. I tried Dirt but was severely underwhelmed, and after reading into it further and finding out that their physics engine doesn't actually simulate a lot of factors, I wasn't surprised. WRC5 was a lot better, but all the tracks were pretty lame (although the WRC7 tracks look awesome).
I'm just trying to find something that gives that tactile physical feel of RBR but with some new tracks and a graphically updated experience. I'll definitely give SLRE a try. The rest of the modding process is pretty overwhelming and inconvenient (for getting other cars, engine sounds and tracks)I understand the part about sounds (if they are that important to you you can skip the rest of the message), but about getting other cars through RBRCIT. Is it overwhelming to click 'download' in the model column and 'download' in the physics column, then = to move the car to the one of the 8 slots? I remember now RBRCIT has one menu option called 'download all physics' so you don't have to click so many times!
Genius!About tracks. You have the. It's 7 big files you have to download, but then unzip and bam: 100+ tracks installed. Too much effort?.
By 'other cars' I meant cars outside of RBRCIT. Obviously RBRCIT is very convenient and I have been using that. But even inside that, the quality of the cars varies WILDLY and there's no way to know if they're junk or not other than trial and error.Compare this to the modding environments of other games, for argument's sake, the Elder Scrolls series. Dirt4 - ignore the whiners, it has a better physics system, better weather, better damage system, improved campaign and procedural stage gen.
OK so the generated stages can look at bit samey - but they drive really well.I have both SLRE and WRC7 and I'm not enjoying either as much as D4. If I had to pick between the two WRC7 is much better presented (especially the audio) - the FFB wasn't great on either but I think the latest WRC7 patch has picked it up a bit so I'd definitely fall on that side. SLRE has a lot of cars/stages but they're all a bit. Crap looking & sounding. I just tried the SLRE demo, wasn't particularly impressed.
I agree that the visual and sound quality is a bit crap, but it's serviceable enough, gets the job done. Car handling seems decent, but just like so many people say in the Steam reviews; the performance is crap.
With everything turned up my frame-rate is quite high (about 140 average I'd say) but there's stuttering, and it didn't go away when I turned everything right down.WRC 7 is looking much more appealing to me right now.Update: Limiting my frame-rate to 60 fixed the stuttering, so now it runs butter smooth, which is allowing me to enjoy the demo quite a lot more despite the only OK graphics and not very good sound. I might get it if it goes very cheap in the sales, but I'd still say WRC is my preference. I'll have to do some more research in comparison of them, though. I have DiRT Rally, DiRT 4 and WRC 7. I haven't quite made my mind up about which I prefer over the others.
DiRT Rally is fun as heck, has VR, and the codriver is better than the other 2 games (has different reading speeds depending on how fast you go). DiRT 4 has a better career mode and so far I've felt more differences in car handling between cars, although I haven't got many different cars in DiRT Rally so may be similar there.
WRC7 has an annoying robotic codriver but great stages.I'm not an experienced simrally driver but I did notice a large improvement in my DiRT Rally driving after playing WRC7 for a bit; the roads/paths in WRC7 are much narrower than DiRT and I think that helped me a lot once I went back to DiRT and its wider stages. Note that all this is with a wheel+pedals setup, not sure how the handling is with a controller for those games.I certainly don't rate DiRT 4 much lower than DiRT Rally. The lack of VR support is the saddest thing about it, but other than that it's a fine game for me so far.From my research, I discarded SLRE early on and didn't consider buying it. I might screw around with RBR and its mods for the VR support at some point, but the trio of DR/D4/WRC7 is great for me.Do also consider that steam sales are a thing and WRC7 dropped to something like 50% off recently (my reason for buying despite the codriver, and glad I did). At that price, it's a very sweet deal.
DiRT 4 will be on sale too, at least it was the last time around (my reason for buying despite the randomly generated stages, and glad I did).